Muddy Waters

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  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

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  Muddy Waters

  How you doing, crazyguy? Any updates?
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  Latest Letter

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. humour

  dear mentally diseased apostates,.

  we are happy to report to you that we are tired of waiting around for jehovah to do his his whole "armageddon thing" and have instead taken steps to expedite the end ourselves.

  we are very confident as "guardians of the doctrine" that we can accomplish this by dismantling the wtbts and its subsidiaries which will, in turn, force god's hand and bring about the coming of jesus riding on a white horse out of the clouds with a sword - or skulls - or scales - err, whatever .

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  Muddy Waters

  Driving Force - love the Winston Churchhill quotes! Thank you! :D
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  Latest Letter

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. humour

  dear mentally diseased apostates,.

  we are happy to report to you that we are tired of waiting around for jehovah to do his his whole "armageddon thing" and have instead taken steps to expedite the end ourselves.

  we are very confident as "guardians of the doctrine" that we can accomplish this by dismantling the wtbts and its subsidiaries which will, in turn, force god's hand and bring about the coming of jesus riding on a white horse out of the clouds with a sword - or skulls - or scales - err, whatever .

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  Muddy Waters

  Brilliant!!!!! Beautiful!!!

  I love the satire - you did this perfectly. At first, I thought it was going on a bit, but it only got better and your sharpness, wit and biting sarcasm are wonderful!!!

  You, sir (ma'am?), are clever and an awesome writer. :D

  You have an insightful and groovy way of using sarcasm and succinctness to capture reality. May I share this? And credit you as Coded Logic..? I absolutely love this.
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  Converts

  by Alive! in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've noticed there seems to be a higher percentage of born-ins here....who are the converted jws?.

  does anyone care to share how they got converted?.

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  Muddy Waters

  I was around 20 when I was converted, as you say. Was coming out of a terrible series of traumas and bad shit. I too was brought up in a religious home but did not like our church. Enter JWs.... so shiny and clean and happy. Or so I thought. I got snared very fast and had no idea it would take close to 30 years to get out. I came to believe it all totally.
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  obsession to count

  by menrov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just returned from a funeral service for the (non-jw) husband of a jw in a funeral home.

  it was rather crowded.

  no jw discourse.

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  Muddy Waters

  I heard that there were very few people at his graveside service, about 3-4, and they were his "yes-men", not even his wife and son attended.
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  The thousand mile bullshit stare

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone else tired of this wt cliche?.

  "a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.

  as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".

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  Also, can't forget the verse about "their tongues will rot in their mouths.... They'll shit themselves from fear...." (Obviously paraphrased). Have to see where that verse is... Zephaniah something, I believe....
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  The thousand mile bullshit stare

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone else tired of this wt cliche?.

  "a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.

  as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".

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  Muddy Waters

  That quote from Ezekiel... about donkeys and horses... was assigned as a bible reading to our little 8-year old son. I objected (in great fear & trepidation I might add, as I still believed we should not question the elders) and they reassigned the talk, telling us it was an oversight.

  But we all still got to hear it being read, children and all, at your friendly neighbourhood (totally clueless about children) Kingdom Hall.
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  Curiosity killed the cat.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't you think with all the talk about apostate sites, this is having a reverse.

  effect for the rf.

  if i was a jw today i would wonder what are all the lies these people are saying.. and i would try defending their truth on these sites, but in each case those that come here.

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  Yes, something like Jehovah saying: "Don't eat the fruit of that tree!!! Have this one and that one, but NOT THAT ONE!! Look at this pretty one and that delicious one, but stay away from that one! That one is very special and important, so whatever you do, stay away from it. Don't even think about it. Okay? Now, what did I just say? Rmember these words. Stay away from the fruit of that tree. It is very very vital that you do that. See it over there? Do you know which one I'm talking about? Yes, that one which looks so incredible and enticing. That's the one which will open your eyes. But stay away from it!!"
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  New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

  7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

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  Muddy Waters

  I just realized (a little slow today) that Ann / Andre

  are very similar names.

  Might we expect to see more of her...?
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  Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.

  through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.

  fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.

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  Muddy Waters

  Paul Grundy, jwfacts

  David Reed

  Duane Mugani (spelling?)